[Golist] UML Modelling
Cedric M. analogdesign
newsl at analogdesign.ch
Mon Jul 28 08:55:24 PDT 2008
Henrik,
> is this baby really win only???
Yep I'm afraid....
Moses I'm sorry for continuing this off-topic thread....
check this: <http://www.visual-paradigm.com/>
http://www.visual-paradigm.com/
My opinion is that it is not as good as Enterprise Architect (from an
Actionscript developer/product architect standpoint), but it has some
advantages like support for CRC cards and conversion of them into uml class
diagram.
The specific product out of the suite is Visual Paradigm for UML 6.3: I have
tested Actionscript code generation and as far as I remember worked good,
but I think reverse engineering wasn't possible at the time I tested it.
Well, Saffron, haven't checked for a long time, I'm still wondering if it is
a fake to benefit from the buzz...
By the way Saffron won't be free as far as I read... So I have doubts that
they can challenge Enterprise Architect regarding price and features... (by
the way it will be crossplatform).
Regarding ArgoUml, I'm following its evolving from its anception, but I've
never been very excited about the way UI was developed... I haven't checked
it back for past months, but I do not remember it supports code engineering.
I must add also that a free version of Enterprise Architect is available, it
is a limited version with only reading capabilities, then very useful in
case you receive such files from a client, a cooperator or a sample file
from a blog ;)
Enterprise Architect files' extension is: .eap
>btw: really looking forward to your article cedric ;)
Thank you ;) I'll let you know when it is published.
Best regards.
Cedric M. (aka maddec)
Interactive Creator
Adobe Flash/Flex/AIR Specialist
Since 1998
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De : golist-bounces at goasap.org [mailto:golist-bounces at goasap.org] De la part
de henrik weber
Envoyé : lundi, 28. juillet 2008 17:23
À : Mailing list for the Go ActionScript Animation Platform
Objet : Re: [Golist] UML Modelling
cheers cedric!
your advice to take a closer look at enterprise architect is really welcome;
but i see one big drawback... is this baby really win only???
found the linux-version that i could run with crossover for mac but that
doesn't feel really good... prefer virtualbox/parallels for the few
win-tools
and am really happy that eclipse is running smooth on my mac...
any hints concerning something comparable for macOS??? do you guys
use argoUML or are there any news regarding saffron? *fg*
thx in advance & tek care!
henrik
btw: really looking forward to your article cedric ;)
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Cedric M. analogdesign wrote:
Hi Donovan,
yes I agree with you about MVC.
Regarding code engineering, I was in contact few months ago with the guy of
Vasgen.
Well, it is a good initiative, it is free, based on the free Violet uml, but
unfortunately not very usable in a commercial context.
For starters on UML and code engineering, they can scratch the surface of
potential of a full featured code engineeering software.
I had tested numerous solutions back in that time, when I made a
presentation at the Adobe User Group on this subject:
http://analogdesign.ch/blog/index.php/archive/uml-drawings-to-actionscript-2
-3-code/
http://analogdesign.ch/blog/index.php/archive/presentation-at-adobe-user-gro
up-geneva-on-uml-and-actionscript-generation/
It is just a bit outdated, I've finally chosen Enterprise Architect 7.1,
which I feel is the best one. I cannot do without it now!
I feel it should be more widely used by the Actionscript community. I talked
about it with Mike Chambers and Colin Moock, but they do not know that this
product existed.
Professional edition is the minimum version to have code engineering for
Actionscript (backward and forward !!!!)
You should check the trial version, it is just amazing and not expansive:
http://www.sparxsystems.com/
Using PureMVC and UML modeling + code engineering is a very efficient work
environment.
They've just issued a plugin, based on MDG technology, to synchronise better
with eclipse and flex project, which is also a must have feature,
improvements are on the way regarding mxml.
I need for months to make a proper introduction on this subject on my blog,
I'll do it in August.
Happy Flexing and Go asap ;)
Best regards.
Cedric M. (aka maddec)
Interactive Creator
Adobe Flash/Flex/AIR Specialist
Since 1998
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De : golist-bounces at goasap.org [mailto:golist-bounces at goasap.org] De la part
de Donovan Adams
Envoyé : vendredi, 25. juillet 2008 16:49
À : golist at goasap.org
Objet : Re: [Golist] PureMVC
Just to continue that thought.. Understanding the concept of MVC is what's
really important. The practices behind decoupling your
data/interface/interaction logic is where the real power lies. This
methodology could be applied to any MVC based framework and will make it
infinitely easier to adopt.
I know were still off topic here but I'd also suggest checking out VASGen
http://www.selfmummy.com/vasgen/
UML and code generation. It's still in it's early stages, but it looks very
promising.
A million ways to do the same thing... :)
<hr />
Hello Christopher,
Personally speaking I have been working with PureMVC framework for almost
one year, for various projects of variable size.
For example I've used it for a long term medium/big RIA Software for an
International Company, it is so clean and flexible and easy to work with
from start to the end of a project, easy to maintain and to update. (by the
way it is thanks to Design Pattern, the credit does not go really to PureMVC
in this, it is not a surprise that they are Design Patterns are so
popular..).
I must confess that after several month of dev, PureMVC is absolutely
amazing in the way it organise your project, it is very strict about MVC,
but also allows you a lot of flexiblity even if you use Flex modules and
more complex elements. When improvement are made to the Framework you do not
have to modify your code which is very good comparing to Cairngorm about
which I've read that people complained.
Everything is very well optimized and can be pushed even forward. I feel it
is far more cleaner than the "official" Cairngorm Adobe solution.
The documentation is very precise and well written, forum people are very
active you can ask any question if you aren't sure about the best practice
for a specific point .A courseware is available to get started with it.
I understand that it may sound complicated for newbies regarding Design
Patterns, but do not be afraid, if you stick to the rules, you needn't to
know very deeply pattern used, they've been written for you.
It is platform independant, it started as a Flex Framework, but it has been
so well thought that it has been ported to numerous languages.
It has also plenty of tools developed by people aka project Manifold (a bit
equivalent to goasap playground).
The way it handles its own events through notification is also sooo useful!
You should maybe read this blog entry I made on PureMVC, speaking about a
comparison between frameworks few month ago:
http://analogdesign.ch/blog/index.php/archive/pattern-park-reviewed-flex-app
lication-frameworks-puremvc-winner/
Must have tools, utils and frameworks:
PureMVC (framework)
Subversion (versionning)
Enterprise Architect (UML/code engineering)
Goasap ;) !!! + Hydrotween
Eclipse (so good!)
Fdt
Masapi (loading API)
Papervision3D, Away3D WOW Engine
If you are a newbies on Design Patterns you should check this book (better
than the official Adobe one):
http://www.amazon.com/ActionScript-3-0-Design-Patterns-Programming/dp/059652
8469/ref=cm_lmf_tit_5_rsrsrs0
an excellent companion to Mr. Moock book!
I hope this will help you.
Best regards.
Cedric M. (aka maddec)
Interactive Creator
Adobe Flash/Flex/AIR Specialist
Since 1998
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De : golist-bounces at goasap.org [mailto:golist-bounces at goasap.org] De la part
de Christopher Wilson
Envoyé : jeudi, 24. juillet 2008 17:38
À : golist at goasap.org
Objet : [Golist] PureMVC
Hello everyone! Moses, you are a champion!!
I’ve merely started to “get” the right way to program in actionscript and
admittedly have a long road ahead of me. This is the first and only
programming language that I’ve studied and it has taken me many years to
reach a point of trying to wrap my head around “design patterns”. I’ve
recently made the commitment to focus on PureMVC and GoASAP as my
foundational frameworks moving forward with application development. That
being said, I really need a mentor to lean on here as I get started on some
projects. We’re not building anything complex like games or huge RIAs –
mainly our focus is on common websites with cool multimedia galleries and
cms back-ends. We also of course want slick transitions leveraging GoASAP
or simply piggy-backing on Donovan Adam’s great work with HydroTween.
We’re really a design firm first although we staff programmers, not enough
are knee-deep actionscript talent. If you’re available over the next few
months and don’t work in a completely opposite time-zone, I’d love to hear
from you. I should hopefully not consume too much of anyone’s time – maybe
a handful of hours a week. Let me know your rates and how you’d be willing
to collaborate. Ideally we’d share an SVN on a job and you’d basically go
through, help me with any shortfalls and steer me in the right direction.
Thank you very much for your time, it is greatly appreciated. I hope to
hear from some comrades soon.
Best,
Christopher "Wilson" Wilson
chris at gomedia.us
Website Engineer
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