[Golist] PureMVC

Thu Jul 24 14:07:06 PDT 2008

I actually agree with much of what Donovan said. I had just finished a
custom as2 framework for a client when I found Gaia. It was eerily similar.
I haven't used it yet because like you said, we build a lot of that stuff
for ourselves anyway. I had a rather rude awakening to PureMVC as a project
a year into development was dropped in my lap to add swfaddress. It was used
almost completely wrong so my head just about fell off and rolled across the
floor trying to sidestep it in order to ignore swfaddress effectively to
prevent its bad radar effect. Frankly with all this new stuff including
design patterns I want to crawl into a hole. Oh what I wouldn't give for a
decent paying flash assignment atm. :)

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Christopher Wilson <chris at gomedia.us>
wrote:

>  Thanks for the feedback Donovan.  And big props for contributing to
> GoASAP with HydroTween – totally rad of you guys to be sharing your
> expertise with your peers.
>
>
>
> I dug into Gaia and it's a cinch.  It is actually extremely similar to what
> I imagined creating for us with PureMVC (minus the ide mxp) as far as
> "closer to the front-end" is concerned.
>
>
>
> You're absolutely right – its not unlike your relationship with GoASAP for
> HydroTween – it's the foundations like Interfaces and event handling engines
> that lay the groundwork for these things to be built on.
>
>
>
> My take on Gaia is that it will serve as a terrific example for me on how
> design firms like mine should be setting up Flash websites.  What I'll
> probably do after I've chewed on Gaia for a while is try building something
> similar with PureMVC as a base.
>
>
>
> I look forward to digging into HydroTween as well!  Good luck with your new
> framework.  Thanks again!!  And a fist bump to Joel Stransky for sharing the
> info.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> -Wilson
>
>
>
> *From:* golist-bounces at goasap.org [mailto:golist-bounces at goasap.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Donovan Adams
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:33 PM
> *To:* golist at goasap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Golist] PureMVC
>
>
>
> I think Gaia is very cool, impressive and very useful. However I feel like
> it sorta leans towards a specific need. It looks great for deploying a site
> if you have an incredibly short launch date, or you are looking for
> something with plug and play ease, but it doesn't neccesarily scream
> "development framework" to me. More like a complete site generating
> tool/system for rapid depoloyment. Gaia definitely uses the usual MVC
> patterns. Observer (GaiaHQ), Semaphores for limiting signals (Event
> Hijacking). Builds projects similar to the way ANT builds projects, etc.
>
> Gaia does everything you would find yourself doing manually. Upside is that
> it saves you the work if you don't have existing patterns/utilites in place.
> The downside (IMHO) is you're locked into an entire site architecture for
> all of your development that is generated more or less by the click of a
> button. Granted...  I think that's awesome as long as that's what you are
> looking for. My hat goes off to Steven for the level of thought and the
> interface Gaia provides for generating projects. He's made standards and
> preactices very accessible to a large group of poeple with Gaia.
>
> I agree that PureMVC is a bit daunting, but like GO, it's geared towards
> what you layer on top of it. Bit of a learning curve like with anything
> else. I have yet to use it in a project, but I was doing some research on it
> and other MVC frameworks.  I wound up starting on my own framework, but
> PureMVC seems like something you could easily port over under most MVC
> frameworks. It's good in the sense that it is not specific to Flex like
> Cairngorm, it's very powerful, and it has a number of other projects linked
> to it.
>
>
> Sorry for the slightly off topic rambling!  I've been in MVC mode myself;)
> more like S&MVC
>
>
>
>
> *******
>
> Hi Chris,
> Have you looked in to the http://www.gaiaflashframework.com/ ?
> I find it a little more inviting than PureMVC.
>
> --Joel
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Christopher Wilson <chris at gomedia.us>
> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone!  Moses, you are a champion!!
>
> I've merely started to "get" the right way to program in actionscript and
> admittedly have a long road ahead of me.  This is the first and only
> programming language that I've studied and it has taken me many years to
> reach a point of trying to wrap my head around "design patterns".  I've
> recently made the commitment to focus on PureMVC and GoASAP as my
> foundational frameworks moving forward with application development.  That
> being said, I really need a mentor to lean on here as I get started on some
> projects.  We're not building anything complex like games or huge RIAs -
> mainly our focus is on common websites with cool multimedia galleries and
> cms back-ends.  We also of course want slick transitions leveraging GoASAP
> or simply piggy-backing on Donovan Adam's great work with HydroTween.
>
>
>
> We're really a design firm first although we staff programmers, not enough
> are knee-deep actionscript talent.  If you're available over the next few
> months and don't work in a completely opposite time-zone, I'd love to hear
> from you.  I should hopefully not consume too much of anyone's time - maybe
> a handful of hours a week.  Let me know your rates and how you'd be willing
> to collaborate.  Ideally we'd share an SVN on a job and you'd basically go
> through, help me with any shortfalls and steer me in the right direction.
>
>
>
> Thank you very much for your time, it is greatly appreciated.  I hope to
> hear from some comrades soon.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> *Christopher "Wilson" Wilson*
>
> chris at gomedia.us
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