[Golist] PureMVC

Thu Jul 24 12:54:35 PDT 2008

Thanks for the feedback Donovan.  And big props for contributing to GoASAP with HydroTween - totally rad of you guys to be sharing your expertise with your peers.

I dug into Gaia and it's a cinch.  It is actually extremely similar to what I imagined creating for us with PureMVC (minus the ide mxp) as far as "closer to the front-end" is concerned.

You're absolutely right - its not unlike your relationship with GoASAP for HydroTween - it's the foundations like Interfaces and event handling engines that lay the groundwork for these things to be built on.

My take on Gaia is that it will serve as a terrific example for me on how design firms like mine should be setting up Flash websites.  What I'll probably do after I've chewed on Gaia for a while is try building something similar with PureMVC as a base.

I look forward to digging into HydroTween as well!  Good luck with your new framework.  Thanks again!!  And a fist bump to Joel Stransky for sharing the info.

Respectfully,

-Wilson

From: golist-bounces at goasap.org [mailto:golist-bounces at goasap.org] On Behalf Of Donovan Adams
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:33 PM
To: golist at goasap.org
Subject: Re: [Golist] PureMVC

I think Gaia is very cool, impressive and very useful. However I feel like it sorta leans towards a specific need. It looks great for deploying a site if you have an incredibly short launch date, or you are looking for something with plug and play ease, but it doesn't neccesarily scream "development framework" to me. More like a complete site generating tool/system for rapid depoloyment. Gaia definitely uses the usual MVC patterns. Observer (GaiaHQ), Semaphores for limiting signals (Event Hijacking). Builds projects similar to the way ANT builds projects, etc.

Gaia does everything you would find yourself doing manually. Upside is that it saves you the work if you don't have existing patterns/utilites in place. The downside (IMHO) is you're locked into an entire site architecture for all of your development that is generated more or less by the click of a button. Granted...  I think that's awesome as long as that's what you are looking for. My hat goes off to Steven for the level of thought and the interface Gaia provides for generating projects. He's made standards and preactices very accessible to a large group of poeple with Gaia.

I agree that PureMVC is a bit daunting, but like GO, it's geared towards what you layer on top of it. Bit of a learning curve like with anything else. I have yet to use it in a project, but I was doing some research on it and other MVC frameworks.  I wound up starting on my own framework, but PureMVC seems like something you could easily port over under most MVC frameworks. It's good in the sense that it is not specific to Flex like Cairngorm, it's very powerful, and it has a number of other projects linked to it.

Sorry for the slightly off topic rambling!  I've been in MVC mode myself;)  more like S&MVC

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Hi Chris,
Have you looked in to the http://www.gaiaflashframework.com/ ?
I find it a little more inviting than PureMVC.

--Joel
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Christopher Wilson <chris at gomedia.us<mailto:chris at gomedia.us>> wrote:

Hello everyone!  Moses, you are a champion!!

I've merely started to "get" the right way to program in actionscript and admittedly have a long road ahead of me.  This is the first and only programming language that I've studied and it has taken me many years to reach a point of trying to wrap my head around "design patterns".  I've recently made the commitment to focus on PureMVC and GoASAP as my foundational frameworks moving forward with application development.  That being said, I really need a mentor to lean on here as I get started on some projects.  We're not building anything complex like games or huge RIAs - mainly our focus is on common websites with cool multimedia galleries and cms back-ends.  We also of course want slick transitions leveraging GoASAP or simply piggy-backing on Donovan Adam's great work with HydroTween.

We're really a design firm first although we staff programmers, not enough are knee-deep actionscript talent.  If you're available over the next few months and don't work in a completely opposite time-zone, I'd love to hear from you.  I should hopefully not consume too much of anyone's time - maybe a handful of hours a week.  Let me know your rates and how you'd be willing to collaborate.  Ideally we'd share an SVN on a job and you'd basically go through, help me with any shortfalls and steer me in the right direction.

Thank you very much for your time, it is greatly appreciated.  I hope to hear from some comrades soon.

Best,

Christopher "Wilson" Wilson

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